Sunday, June 7, 2009

Giant Skeletons

The mystery surrounding reports of “giant skeletons” has always intrigued and fascinated me. Specifically, how it seemed to be a common ocurrence that human-like bone remains, often of giant proportions, were known for popping up everywhere in the mid-to-late 1800s, as featured in reports like these:

During an 1879 excavation of an Indian mound near Brewersville, Indiana, a nine-foot eight inch skeleton was found buried within. Around the same time, George W. Hill, M.D., also unearthed a skeleton said to be “of unusual size” while excavating a mound in Ashland County, Ohio. In 1880, American Antiquarian, volume three, reported that a Doctor Everhart allegedly found another large skeleton “reported to have been of enormous dimensions” in a strange clay coffin along with a sandstone slab marked with unidentified hieroglyphics near Zanesville Ohio. In 1881 in Medina County, Ohio, a succession of nine bodies were found below the cellar of a house, buried as though the corpses had been “dumped into a ditch.” Albert Harris, one of the residents, was twenty years old at the time of the grave’s discovery, and removing one of the large skeletons, said that he could literally fit the piece over his entire head and allow it to rest on his shoulders like a large helmet, even while wearing a cap underneath! Still, we’ve all heard of how even well known authors of the era, including Mark Twain, contributed to the telling of “whoppers” in their day; that is, many writers who got their feet wet as newspaper writers for dailies would occasionally cook up tall tales when local news just wasn’t doing it (see a great example of this here). Eventually, I decided to try and find out if there might be any reports that could be verified with more certainty, and after some digging around in public domain archives, I found a couple.

In their 1894 report to the secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, Cyrus Thomas and Thomas Powell of the Bureau of Ethnology wrote of several discoveries where large human skeletal remains were found, the first ocurring in Roane County, Tennessee:

“Underneath the layer of shells the earth was very dark and appeared to be mixed with vegetable mold to the depth of 1 foot. At the bottom of this, resting on the original surface of the ground, was a very large skeleton lying horizontally at full length. Although very soft, the bones were sufficiently distinct to allow of careful measurement before attempting to remove them. The length from the base of the skull to the bones of the toes was found to be 7 feet 3 inches. It is probable, therefore, that this individual when living was fully 7½ feet high.”

And yet another instance, this time in presumed Indian burial mounds at Dunlieth, Illinois:

“Near the original surface, 10 or 12 feet from the center, on the lower side, lying at full length on its back, was one of the largest skeletons discovered by the Bureau agents, the length as proved by actual measurement being between 7 and 8 feet. It was clearly traceable, but crumbled to pieces immediately after removal from the hard earth in which it was encased….”

Indeed, it seems that the Smithsonian at one time reported oddities like these which they uncovered, especially during the “giant boom” of the late nineteenth century. Still, I can’t help but ask; if these kinds of discoveries were ever at all commonplace, why aren’t skeletons and other anomalies like this found more frequently in modern times… or are they?

During an email exchange I had last year with my good friend and mentor, Brad Steiger, we began discussing a few similar reports which he had included in his book Worlds Before Our Own, where a few such skeletons were said to exist in private museums. ”After the book was published, I learned of even more and included photos of them in my lectures,” he told me. ”Soon, individuals beseeched me to cease; the private museums were mysteriously suffering unexplained fires.” One is left to ask; what about anomalous relics of this (or any) sort could be so worthy of censorship on such a level?

Further complicating the mystery of missing giant bones is the following exerpt from an article I wrote which included the inquiries of the late zoologist Ivan T. Sanderson, best known for his interest in the legends regarding America’s Bigfoot and the Abominable Snowmen alleged to reside in the Himalayas:

“Sometime in the 1960s, Sanderson wrote about an odd letter he received regarding an engineer who, during World War II, had been stationed on the Aleutian island of Shemya. While building an airstrip, the bulldozing of a group of hills in the area led the engineer and his crew to unearth several sedimentary layers of human remains. They noted the extraordinary length of the crania and leg bones at the site, having apparently belonged to people of gigantic proportions. The skulls were said to have measured up to 24 inches from base to crown, far greater than the length of an average human skull. Also of interest was that each was said to have been trepanned, the strange process of drilling or cutting a hole and removing a top center portion of the skull, thought by some ancient cultures to enable a variety of alleged “benefits”, including psychic abilities, etc. Sanderson actively began to search for more proof of this incident, and later was able to contact another member of the unit who also confirmed the bizarre story. By all accounts, the remains were said to have been gathered by the Smithsonian Institution, but no record of where they were taken was ever issued. Sanderson seemed convinced that the institute did indeed retrieve them however, going so far as to ask ‘is it that these people cannot face rewriting all the textbooks?’ “

Do I honestly think that there are MIBs out there spiriting away giant skeletons into an unmarked warehouse someplace? Not at all… but I think it’s safe to suppose (at least for the sake of a good pun) that someone may have a few “skeletons in their closet” that they just aren’t talking about!


hanu said...

may be the modern science theory of human evolution tells a different theory , but as per the indian mythology , there were human beings like Bheema in Mahabharta with exceptional body size.and there are text available which says about the use air planes , live coverage of the war to a remote place by a human,and even the arms of mass destruction are described.
I think that these stories are not base less and they may based on facts , at a time of about 30000 years ago.

Anonymous said...

The cleverly created image of the giant skeleton is actually an entry in an image manipulation contest by artist "IronKite" in which participants were instructed to create "a picture of an archaeological discovery that looks so real, had it not appeared at Worth1000, people might have done a double take".

Anony said...

So where where is the private Museum these days? can we visit and see it for ourselves?

Unknown said...

Genisis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.

Anonymous said...

may be the modern science theory of human evolution tells a different theory , but as per every single pagan or polytheistic religion to my knowledge there were things called gods. They were bigger, stronger, and faster than us. It would be great to prove those classical stories as anything besides stories, or to believe that some myths can be proven. Unfortunately the ancients gods are just the same as ours, a lie. Whoever made that photo was pretty good

Unknown said...

They are aliens. Most likely friendly aliens with 12 strand DNA. may shed light on this.

IUR said...

These are skeletons of a nation known as Qaum-e-hood. In Holy Book of Quran it is explained in depth of what happend to them before they died

Amoeba said...

I'm no expert, but like many things humans don't scale well. A normal human skeleton already has its weak points: lower back, hip joints and knees which start to play up in later life. But increasing the size of a human by merely increasing the linear scale around six times (the giant skull on a wheel-barrow) means the skin surface area and bone-strength is increased six squared=36 times, while the volume (and mass) are increased by six-cubed=216 times.

This hugely increased mass would have serious consequences for the skeleton: in particular the: spine; knee joints and leg bones. It's pretty likely that scaled-up leg bones and vertebrae would suffer crushing failure under the forces of walking.

It's also likely that such a large human would not be able to wear clothes because of the risk of heat-stroke and would self-cook from the inability to lose heat from normal metabolism. Any kind of strenuous physical activity; load-bearing activity; or combination of the two i.e. sexual intercourse would be fatal.

Remember that physical chemical processes may be limiting factors.

The problem of scaling and physical processes is why insects aren't the size of bears.

Amoeba said...

Perhaps I wasn't clear, the idea of giant humans is a myth. It's a hoax.
All your photos are fakes. You've been duped. You should be sceptical and insist on evidence.

Even as a layman, I was able to show you why these claims couldn't possibly be true.

Unknown said...

We may never see physical evidence because should any come to surface it would mean that the whole theory of evolution is wrong and the 'Higher Up's " hate being proven wrong and will go to great lengths and make up all kinds of debunking theories to cover it up, even ruining the careers of the very people that discovered them even when carbon dating shows it to be real. Re-writing history isn't something that people in power want to have to do regardless of the facts. Its up to you to do your own research and come up with your own conclusions because there is enough evidence out there to give you an idea of what is and what isn't real. The big question you should always ask yourself is " What would it mean to the world if it is real. and What what those in control stand to lose should it come to light and truth be known "

amoeba said...

Roderick said...

"We may never see physical evidence because should any come to surface it would mean that the whole theory of evolution is wrong and the 'Higher Up's " hate being proven wrong and will go to great lengths and make up all kinds of debunking theories to cover it up"
November 6, 2010 10:04 AM

Evidence please! Or is this 'evidence' all secret?

What a load of rubbish!

BTW, few people realise the value placed by scientists on redundancy. Redundancy is confirmation by multiple independent fields of study. Evolution doesn't rely on Darwin, or Wallace or any single piece of evidence. Evolution is the conclusion, based upon the evidence but now independently confirmed from numerous disciplines, many of which were completely unknown at the time by Darwin or Wallace have provided addition evidence. These disciplines, [molecular biology; DNA & genetics; electron-microscopy; cell morphology] have been shown to support evolution.

It would be necessary to overturn vast swathes of science in order to undermine evolution, and that just doesn't look even remotely likely any time soon.

No single piece of evidence could undermine evolution.

In-fact, the evidence for evolution continues to accumulate daily.

Science is a search for the truth, based upon evidence. It is not a religion.

Roderick with his imaginary conspiracy just doesn't understand.

bobrockson said...

There is no god!

Anonymous said...

Prophet mohamad )ص( says: that allah created adam 60 meters long and iva they were the longest humans in earth and people with the time runing they will go more shorter

amoeba said...

It was provably fake from first principles, as indeed Protista has shown. Even without the evidence of fakery

The trouble is that some people are GULLIBLE and will believe anything.

That grey mushy thing inside your head is not only there to keep your ears apart! It's intended to be used.

googblogger said...

There is a small mueseum/planetarium in North Georgia that has a huge human thigh bone. My sons saw it there, years ago when they were in high school. Sorry, I don`t have details at this moment.

OldNick said...

from amoeba...."In-fact, the evidence for evolution continues to accumulate daily."

Which is to say that evolution is constantly evolving :) as it should.

OldNick said...

"googblogger said...

There is a small mueseum/planetarium in North Georgia that has a huge human thigh bone. My sons saw it there, years ago when they were in high school. Sorry, I don`t have details at this moment."

Any more details? So far this is just another "somebody I know knows somebody", "friend of a friend" sort of thing....

The king said...

To all the critics. Get a life. these are also not "Aliens"...ARE YOU CRAZY??

If you want to see A REAL LIFE GIANT in TODAY'S DAY AND AGE....Look at the Great Khali from WWF he is more than 7ft tall and weighs more than 400pbs and has the power of 10men...he is so strong he can pop a basket ball between his hands!!!! THERE IS SUCH A THING AS GIANTS!!! said...

So, what ever happened to DNA ???
You could certainly prove whether these are Human or Animal or Faked.

amoeba said...

June Conte- Pryor said...
"So, what ever happened to DNA ???
You could certainly prove whether these are Human or Animal or Faked."
No twenty-foot high (or sixty metre-high) giant human bones have ever been found. As pointed-out in the comments, the square-cube Law proves beyond doubt that these monster-humans depicted in the photographs cannot exist. The tallest human on record [The tallest man in medical history for whom there is irrefutable evidence is Robert Pershing Wadlow (USA) (born 6:30 a.m. at Alton, Illinois, USA on 22 February 1918), who when last measured on 27 June 1940, was found to be 2.72 m (8 ft 11.1 in) tall.] Source: guinnessworldrecords
There is no DNA available from a photoshopped photograph.

If anyone had such a bone, you can be certain it would soon be made available for testing, unless the owners knew or suspected it of being fake of course.
The fact that these items never get to be tested scientifically tells everyone with an open-mind exactly how fake these so-called "giant's bones" must be.
It's all bullshit.

Unknown said...

"No Bones About It", Ebook By scifiguy3553

~~"Marcus Odwan is a young, archeologist student teacher in New York City. On the side, he is a tour guide at the American Museum of Natural History. Marcus is not the type to give credence to conspiracy theories. Not even the one about his own profession...unless he is proven wrong!"

amoeba said...

Joseth Moore,

The problem with conspiracy theories is that they inevitably fail at some level. Dishonest rhetoric is just that.

Genuine fossils contain microstructures that cannot be faked. And genuine fossils, found in-situ in the bedrock would likewise be surrounded by matrix containing microfossils. And the microfossils are found often in large quantities pretty-well everywhere and would be consistent with the environment present at that location and time. Microfossils often evolve rapidly in time and together with the combination of different types of microfossils acts as a kind of fingerprint.
It reveals much about the type of environment, the vegetation and animal life & etc. present when the specimen was deposited.

One of the principles of geology, archaeology and palaeontology is meticulous record-keeping and that would include the locality, horizon, formation and other details that would pinpoint where precisely a specimen was found. That means that the site can be revisited later and searched for further specimens, or other evidence.

If you think scientists can't distinguish between a genuine fossil and a resin replica you are deluded and severely lacking in understanding and knowledge.

amoeba said...

Joseth Moore,

It's notable that the mendacious ebook you cited was written by yourself.

Is such behaviour the act of an honest person?

If you had any facts or evidence to support your views, you wouldn't have to resort to dishonest rhetoric.

Unknown said...

The offspring from the union of the fallen angels (sons of God) and women are unnatural (hybrids). The mixing of angelic bodies and human flesh produced "mighty men", giants or gibbors as written in Hebrew. The Bible speaks of giants that were born with deformities due to the unions of humans and the fallen angels. 2 Samuel 21:20 And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.

It is all biblical.

amoeba said...

All claims made in the Bible are suspect. In every case of which I am aware, the Biblical claims, when testable by science are found to be egregiously wrong. The Earth is not flat, being circular (flat not spherical) but possessing four corners (?!), resting upon pillars. Nor is the sky a solid dome with tiny stars fixed to it and with the sun and moon moving inside the sky-dome. There are no windows in the sky to let the rain fall from heaven.
The Biblical cosmos is like a snow-globe. Likewise, the Biblical giants and Noah's ark and global flood are all complete and utter nonsense.

Unknown said...

!! omg, amoeba, it's been about a year since these posts. I posted & never came back to this site, so sorry for the lack of response...
i'm an ATHEIST, I do NOT believe such conspiratorial things like mentioned.

Unknown said...

(the above comment from Joseth Moore)

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astroboy said...

I am working to learn Cuneiform to read the clay tablets of Sumerian, Akkadian and Hitite origin in Mesopotamia. So far from my studies, the Book of Genesis in the Bible is a readers digest version of the Enuma Elish and Atrahasis combined with Lamentations of various cities which have been destroyed in an ancient nuclear war. Zacharia Sitchin is a modern translator of these tablets. I use the Bible for clues to what MIGHT have happened. The alephbet of Hebrew was created by someone smart.

Clay tablets indicate that the Anunaki gods Enki and Enlil have a rivalry that may be reaching its "exciting conclusion" in 2019-2021. The Anunaki had technology to mix species, which we began to be able to do since 1995 (mouse with human ear on its back). They built us over a period of thousands of years acording to the clay tablets. Adam was a version 1.0, then Adapa, version 2.0 and Noah/Atrahasis was version 3.0. We were mixed with Anunaki DNA.

My key questions are who was Jehovah/Yaweh? Who are the Elohim? Are they Anunaki or others? Who is Jesus/Yeshua? Is he Lord Pacal/Buddha/Krishna?

Conspiracies exist to gain power over normal systems by small numbers of people. The drug lords conspire to run their businesses. The La Cosa Nostra were originally a power to balance against bad government in Italy. Having been to Dallas, as a shooter myself, I cannot imagine how Kennedy was shot from behind to cause his head wound which came from the grassy knoll... 2 shooters MEANS conspiracy. CIA Director Dulles was the evil head of that attack on the people of the world. The Majestic12 is no longer a rumor. Vietnam was based on a lie about an attack. Again, a conspiracy.

Is there a person or group of persons of extremely long life expectancy who run the world at the top in a conspiracy? Are they central bankers? Are they good or bad? Depends on your perspective. Who put up the Georgia Guidestones?

Do academics demand adherence to dogma about their field to keep funding for research? Global Warming vs Grand Solar Minimum and Milankovich Cycle Ice Age- which gets funded and the data gets changed to keep the dogma intact? Plasma physics/ Electric Universe which uses lab experiments to simulate what happens at galactic scales or Gravity Model of academics which gives us Black Holes, stars that are continuous nuclear bombs, Dark Matter and Dark Energy fudge factors?

I may be an idiot but I am willing to change to match real data, not dogma, no matter how painful that transition is. I question everything. I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN LIED TO!!!

astroboy said...

BTW, the Sumerian tablets indicate that Darwinian forces created the hominids and that the Anunaki modified some of them to create modern man. BOTH creationists and evolutionists are therefore correct. We now have that tech available to us.

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